|
|
Post by Alexandre M on Feb 4, 2014 14:37:51 GMT
Knowing means that you are absolutely positive that what you know is factual and true. For example" if someone managed to escape they would be shot" they know this because they knew that they would be shot because that's what happened to the people that tried to escape. A real world example is the Seattle Seahawks won the super bowl this year because there is factual evidence to back that up. Believing is thinking that something to it true but having no evidence that states this to back up what you believe. An example from the book is they are Jewish and that is why horrible things happen to them. This is belief because they are choosing to believe in god even though there is no evidence to prove he is. A real world example is i am a Christian and i believe in god even though there is no proof. Being mad or "crazy" is believing things that aren't very believable and getting judged into a category basically saying that what they say is crazy and not real even though it cold be. an example in the book is when the woman said she saw fire everyone thought she was crazy. for example they put people who they believe to be mad or crazy in asylums there for they are getting placed there for their crazy beliefs. You need to explain your answer a little better cause your answers don't really tell me more about knowing, believing and being ad they just give me a brief explanation and not telling me something more about the odject. |
|
|
|
Post by Kiran G. on Feb 4, 2014 14:38:29 GMT
What does it mean to know?
To know means to know something is true, with supporting evidence. For example, I know that I have a family, because I live with them, have pictures of them, I interact with them everyday, and I have my birth certificate with states my birth to my parents. These things are supporting evidence to my account, which makes it a true fact. This is an example from the book: "You are in a concentration camp. In Auschwitz... Remember it always, let it be graven in your memories . You are in Auschwitz. And Auschwitz is not a convalescent home. It is a concentration camp. Here, you must work. If you don't you will go straight to the chimney. To the crematorium. Work or crematorium-the choice is yours." This is a true fact, they were in Auschwitz. They knew this because they had seen the crematorium, and all the mean and cruel blows they had taken, they knew it was not a convalescent home. They also had to work in bad conditions and got very little food. It was actually proven afterwards too, that Auschwitz was real, when the Russians and Americans found out about the camp.
What does it mean to believe?
To believe means to think that something is real, with no supporting evidence. For example, I used to think that Bigfoot was real, but there really hasn't been much supporting evidence. Plus, some of the "evidence" could have been fake. This is an example from the book: "The people were saying, 'The red army is advancing with giant strides... Hitler will not be able to harm us, even if he wants to..." They believed that Hitler would not harm them, they doubted an annihilation of an entire people. It seemed far-fetched. But did they have any evidence to support their theory? No! These characteristics make up what it means to believe.
What does it mean to be mad (crazy)?
Being mad is making beliefs out of something that is not there or does not exist. It has no supporting evidence at all and it is a bit hard to believe. Some people who are mad claim they see things like ghosts or demons and they have no evidence to support themselves at all. Mad people can have mental disorders, and not normal characteristics, such as laughing hysterically, and screaming at unknown things such as Mrs. Schachter. This is a quote from the book: "Look! Look at this fire! This terrible fire! Have mercy on me!... Some pressed against the bars to see. There was nothing. Only the darkness of night." The people thought she was mad because she was making a belief of something that she thought was there (the fire), but everybody else saw nothing, only the darkness of night. She had no evidence to support herself, making her belief "crazy".
|
|
|
|
Post by Emily D on Feb 4, 2014 14:39:22 GMT
There is a difference between knowing, Believing and going mad. To know something Is when you are for sure that something is true. this is like a fact, you can have proof that this is real and you know it. You could also be a witness to know something. "hwy kid how old are you? Fifteen, No. your eighteen. But im not I said im fifteen, Fool listen to what i say." This is an example on page 30 of not knowing. He did not know why this man was telling im to change how old he was, he wasnt sure if this would allow him to stay with his father, if changing his age would change if he lived or not, he did not know.
To believe something it may not be true but that is what you think. believing could be in a religion or something that is going on in your life. It can also be a state of denial, when you try to make yourself believe something that is not true. An example of believing would be on page 35 "The blows continued to rain on us: to the barber! Belt and shoes in hand I let myself be dragged along to the barbers. Their clippers tore out our hair, shaved ever hair on our bodies" this could be the Germans trying to make the jews believe that they no longer have a life of their own, they may not choose how they look, So they will eventually believe that they are who the Germans say they are, and they are not who they used to be.
To go mad could be caused by not knowing/ understanding things, and being made to believe something when you feel another way. When you go mad it is usually because no one believes you. An example of a person going mad is Mrs. shachter on page 24 " Mrs. Shachter had lost her mind. on the first day of the journey she had already begun to moan. She kept asking why she had been separated from her family. later hr sobs and screams became hysterical. on the third night as we were sleeping, some of us sleeping huddled against each other, some of us standing, a piercing cry broke the silence: Fire! i see fire! i see fire!" this women was mad in the first place, but when people where not believing her it might have made her more upset, or mad because she was trying to make people believe her.
|
|
|
|
Post by Laura H on Feb 4, 2014 14:48:42 GMT
To know is to be absolutely certain of something. It entails that you have accurate proof to your reasoning and that you know that it cannot be wrong. A quote from Night that exemplifies this is, "Without passion or haste, they shot their prisoners, who were forced to approach the trench one by one and offer their necks. Infants were tossed into the air and used as targets for their machine guns. This took place in the Galician forest, near Kolomay." (Pg. 6) This is an example of knowing because Moishe the Beadle actually witnessed these events. There is an exact location where these events took place and although Moishe didn't have any physical evidence to represent the horrible actions, he knew for certain that these things happened. A real world example of knowing is that I know I woke up at 7:30 this morning. This represents my definition because I was there to actually witness myself waking up and looking at the time.
To believe means to trust or have some type of faith in someone or something. It means that you think that something is real or right without having any hard evidence. An example from Night is, "Confidence soared. Suddenly we felt free of the previous nights' terror. We gave thanks to God." This is an accurate example because it shows belief in something other than themselves. They solely believe in a higher power that dictates what happens to them. Elie and the others give thanks to a power that they have a strong faith in. A real life example would be any religion because it is a strong belief in something bigger than themselves that makes that belief true to them.
To be "mad" or crazy means to have no reason or deep thought to something. It means that you and others cannot even comprehend the words that are being heard. There is no actual process to the thought or crazed belief that cannot be proven true. An example of this from Night is, "Look! Look at this fire! This terrible fire! Have mercy on me! Some pressed against the bars to see. There was nothing. Only the darkness of night." This means to be "mad" because Mrs. Schachter was howling and screaming her thoughts out loud. When the people looked outside, her thoughts were proven untrue. There was no fire to be seen. Everyone thought she was mad or crazy. A real life example is a person that resides in a mental facility such as a paranoid schizophrenic. The things that these people say have no rhyme or reasons to their words and although the words might have an underlying meaning, it still is heard as nonsense.
|
|
|
|
Post by Kyle M on Feb 4, 2014 14:53:01 GMT
To know something is to be well informed, are about that topic in which you are discussing.
Real World Example: I know how to make Lemonade. You make lemonade by filling 1/4 of the pitcher with water the you put 2 quarts of lemonade in it and stir. Then you fill it with water until it is an inch from the top and the you stir some more then yo put the lid on it and put is somewhere cold.
Quote from Night: "if someone managed to escape they would be shot." pg 22 they knew this was true if they tried escaping the camps that they would die.
To believe in something is for you think what is right
Real world Example: Jack stood up for the high school bully because he tells people he did those tricks and pranks but this time he said he didn't do it it this time and it turns out to be somebody he has been a bully to.
Quote from Night:("But we were pulling into a station. Someone near a window read to us: "Auschwitz." Nobody had ever heard that name."). Since the Germans hadn't told the Jews specifically where they were going, the Jews had to believe what each other were saying and some of them got/believed the idea that there was still hope and that they were going to a good place (rater than a concentration camp). They had no evidence of where they were going, which made them have their beliefs.
To be mad or crazy is to be on the insane side of things where you see hallucinations and pictures and hear voices.
Real world Example:
when your in the desert and its really hot out and you see hallucinations and pictures and hear voices and you see an oasis and it turns out to be fake or when an old family member had a problem and they had to take medications and then they wake up and believe they're in the war again
Quote from Night: "fire! i see a fire!" pg 25 this is when Madame Schächter is screaming because she knows people are getting burned at the camp and no one is believing her because she seems crazy by screaming this over and over.
|
|
|
|
Post by Amanda F on Feb 4, 2014 14:53:37 GMT
When knowing something it means to believe or have faith in something you have seen or heard. You may not have proof for your statement but you believe in it and keep the fact that you know some part of evidence from what you believe. "The beloved objects that we had carried with us from place to place were now left behind in the agon and with them, finally, our illusions." I feel that this quote shows that what these people thought that they knew was wrong. They thought things would be better in these camps since they were isolated but that was the opposite. They believed in things that they heard from others without any evidence that the camps were "retreats and resting camps" but they never guessed it was like this. You can see that believing something and actually seeing it for yourself are different. A real world example for this can be that when people come to conclusions to quickly based off of what they heard. They judge each other on false information that has been passed around and they can't tell which it true.
To believe someting is to accept something as true; feel sure of the truth. It's what all the Jews wanted to think. They wanted to believe that they would be set free and that they would get out as they came in. "We must do something. We can't let them kill us like that, like cattle in the slaughterhouse. We must revolt." The Jewish people wanted to believe that they could fight back for whats right and spare their lives as well as others if they just stand up for what they believe in which was getting out of the concentration camps and not being treated like animals. A real world example of this is the saying "seeing in believing". People tend to believe in whatever they see on the tv or internet. They don't need the evidence they believe what they want or believe what they know is true.
Madness is the state of being mentally ill. My quote from the book is "She continued to scream and sob fitfully. Jews listen to me, I see fire! I see huge flames!
It was as though she was possessed by an evil spirit. We tried to reason with her, more to calm ourselves, to catch our breath, than to soothe her.
Didn't finish!
Do we have to be mentally ill to be mad? Later they were thinking she may have been right because of the chimney stacks and the fire they saw coming from the camp. I think it may also have something to do with credibility and how she wasn't acting like the rest of society wanted her to. |
|
|
|
Post by Caleb W on Feb 4, 2014 14:54:34 GMT
To know something means that you have facts or knowledge to support something. so that you think that it is the truth. An example of a real world example is that people knew that the holocaust was real because some people might have survived thourgh it or heard about it.
Did not get to finish
|
|
|
|
Post by JuliaK on Feb 4, 2014 14:54:47 GMT
The definition of know is very generic. You could know a certain fact, like George Washington was the first president, or it could be something else, like you know that you're going to die in gas chambers in the next hour or so. In this book it's usually the latter, the feeling of knowing what's coming next and what's going to happen. One quote that supports this is on page 36, "In one terrifying moment of lucidity, I thought of us as damned souls wandering through the void, souls condemned to wander through space until the end of time, seeking redemption, seeking oblivion, without any hope at finding either." So at this point it's become known to Elie that he's basically doomed. They don't exactly know what's coming next but they all know that it can't be good. They'll always be lost and destroyed by the events that have happened to them.
I almost finished with the first paragraph (What does it mean to know),I didn't complete the real-world example, but I didn't have time to complete the other two!
|
|
|
|
Post by Sydney H on Feb 4, 2014 14:55:16 GMT
Knowing is the state of being aware. Moshie the beetle in section one, was believed to be crazy after claiming to have witnessed German officers using infants as target practice and shooting Jews, But he knew what was coming. The difference between knowing and believing is having proof of this. An example of this is when Mrs Schatcher was believed to be crazy because she saw the flames, but she knew what was coming. Still she had no proof. To
NOT FINISHED
|
|
|
|
Post by McRae C on Feb 4, 2014 14:55:43 GMT
It means that you know factual things. what you believe in, who you are, what you do. when the man asks Ellie how old he is and the man knows what happens to people that age so he tells him another age to go bye because he knows what will happen. when Mrs.Schächter was acting all crazy and yelling fire and people thought she was crazy, she might of had been a little bit crazy but she knew what was going to happen and she knew there was going to be a fire
Did not get to finish
|
|
|
|
Post by Charleigh Hodges on Feb 4, 2014 14:57:47 GMT
What does it mean to know?
-- To know is to acknowledge and understand critical thinking. To know something is to comprehend and not just know the answer but to know how to explain your reasoning.
Quote: "The SS officer gave the order. "Form ranks of fives!" "There was a tumult. It was imperative to stay together. "Hey kid how old are you?" "The man interrogating me was an inmate. I could not see his face, but his voice was weary and warm." "Fifteen". "No you're eighteen." "But I'm not," I said. "I'm fifteen." "Fool. Listen to what I say."
-- This i think is a good example of how to know something. He ha to process what the prisoner had told him and think hmm what does this mean. There has to be reasoning behind what he told me. I think what the inmate had told him meant the older you are the more valuable you were towards the German's because the older you are that meant you are strong to the Nazis. So he had a big decision to make because he knew that what the prisoner told him had value to it.
-- A real life example would be in school and you answered a question and then elaborated and explained you're reasoning.
What does it mean to believe?
-- To believe means to have courage, be brave, ad keep fighting to you can't put up a fight any longer. I think believing in something can be tough it's like if you know you put a lot of effort into a project and you don't know if they teacher or peer is going to give you that good grade, you just got to believe in how you did and how much work that you put in it.
Quote: "Work will make you free"
-- This quote means a lot because they tricked the Jews to think the more work you do the better we will treat you or we will let you go but in reality they killed them and tortured them.
What does it mean to be mad?
-- I think that if you're crazy or mad than it's a mental reasoning behind it because you don't just go crazy there is a reasoning behind it.
Quote: The lady who saw fire was hallucinating because she didn't get fed and she was poor and her family died.
-- A real life example would be pretty close to the book when the lady went crazy because she was starving and had a life that was coming to an end.
|
|
|
|
Post by Will D A2 on Feb 4, 2014 16:02:44 GMT
What does it mean to know?
When you know something, that means it is a fact inside of your brain and there is no way you are wrong. For example, I know for a fact that I have Mrs. Hoffman on A Day in 1st block. To know something, there is evidence that can prove you correct as well. I know when I have Mrs. Hoffman then because there is lots of evidence. Not only because I go to that class every A Day at the same time, but there is also evidence of it because it has been submitted online and been printed out on paper for me. There is a difference between what you know and what you think. What you know is a fact, and what you think is an opinion. I think that Mrs. Hoffman is a great teacher, but I don't actually know it, because I don't have any evidence. But it could become fact if for instance she won the teacher of the year, which then I would know for sure. Elie knew that many dead Jews were being thrown into fire, because he saw it with his own eyes and so did everyone else, which is evidence that it actually happened. "Yes, I did see this, with my own eyes ... children thrown into the flames."
What does it mean to believe?
When you believe something, that is what you think or agree with, but it isn't always true. For example, when I was little, I used to believe that there was a murderer that was going to break in at night and kill me. But I don't actually know that will happen, because there is no evidence of a killer going around my neighborhood, or the alarm would never go off, so there really couldn't be anyone breaking in. Believing is also another form of opinion, the opposite of fact. An opinion would be that Humanities is a difficult class. That isn't a fact, but I believe that, because it is difficult for me. In the book, the Jews had seen so many bad things happen, that they thought it wouldn't get any worse. "We thought that nothing could frighten us anymore."
What does it mean to be "mad" (crazy)?
When there is madness occurring, it could mean many things. It could be people going insane or events that are insane. For example, many people were going insane and creating madness in the concentration camps because of all of the insane things going on. Madame Schachter was creating madness by screaming "fire" over and over again, when they couldn't even see fire at the moment. "Look! Look at this fire! This terrible fire! Have mercy on me!". There is also madness created by events that happen, which end up making people around the event go insane. An example of that is 9/11. When the planes crashed into the towers, there was film of people going crazy for hours.
|
|
|
|
Post by Will D A2 on Feb 4, 2014 16:05:09 GMT
What does it mean to know? To know means to actually have a fact inside your head, and realizing what that fact means and if it is true or not. For example, I know that my birthday is in November because it is a fact- it has been written on my birth certificate and I celebrate my birthday on the same day in that month every year. These two things supporting the fact/the thing I know actually make it true, which really does make it something that I know rather than something that I just believe. You need to have evidence to support something that you know, which doesn't really apply to something that you believe. In Night, Ellie knew that the Germans were killing Jews by throwing them in the fire pit because he saw it with his own eyes, "Not far from us, flames, huge flames, were rising from a ditch. Something was being burned there. A truck drew close and unloaded its hold: small children. Babies! Yes, I did see this, with my own eyes ... children thrown into the flames." Ellie knew that the Germans had planned to kill them because he had real evidence. What does it mean to believe? To believe something is to think (not know) that something is real without having any evidence. Someone may have told you some 'evidence' but that doesn't mean it is true. For example, I used to believe that Santa Clause was real, but only based on Christmas movies and what my parents told me. But, was all of that evidence actually true? That is believing. While in the cattle cars, the Jews believed that they might have been going to a good place, because they haven't heard of Auschwitz before ("But we were pulling into a station. Someone near a window read to us: "Auschwitz." Nobody had ever heard that name."). Since the Germans hadn't told the Jews specifically where they were going, the Jews had to believe what each other were saying and some of them got/believed the idea that there was still hope and that they were going to a good place (rater than a concentration camp). They had no evidence of where they were going, which made them have their beliefs. What does it mean to be "mad" (crazy)? Define and support with a quote from Night AND a real world example. Being mad is making a belief out of something that doesn't exist. For example, there are mental patients/pshycotic people who get put into asylums for saying that something is there, but it really isn't. For example, in Night, Mrs. Schachter says that she sees a fire, "Look! Look at this fire! This terrible fire! Have mercy on me!" Even though the Jews found out their fate dealing with fire later, it's not like there was a fire anywhere when Mrs. Schachter was screaming that she saw one. This makes her mad- she is making beliefs/claiming that she sees/knows something that isn't really there. Good examples |
|
|
|
Post by Brenna R. on Feb 4, 2014 16:10:39 GMT
What does it mean to know?:
Definition: Knowing is having evidence of something. This means that you have evidence of it or that you've seen it for yourself. Quote: " If someone managed to escape, they would be shot." They knew that if anyone tried to escape, they would be shot because they had either seen it or other people's actions gave them evidence of it. They also knew this because of the way the officers were treating them that they wouldn't hesitate to kill any of the Jews. Real World Example: We know things that has happened in the past such as wars, major events, etc because we have evidence from it such as pictures, old buildings, museums, etc. This evidence lets us know that the event happened. For example, the holocaust. We know that it happened because of things like Night and many other books as well as pictures, witnesses, etc.
What does it mean to believe?:
Definition: To believe in something is not exactly having evidence of it but you have faith in the situation or thing. Quote: "The conditions were good. Families would not be separated" This was in context to the concentration camp. They didn't have any evidence that the conditions were good or that families wouldn't be separated but they believed it because they wanted to be true. But as they found more and more evidence to prove that it wasn't true, they started to believe less and less until they saw it for themselves. Real World Example: When kids are little they believe in things like Santa or The Tooth Fairy. They don't have any evidence that those things are real, they just have faith in them.
What does it mean to be "mad" (crazy)?:
Definition: Madness is when someone doesn't know the difference between reality and fantasy so they don't have any evidence whatsoever and they not only believe it, they do more then just believe it and they take action to try to prove something impossible or unrealistic. Quote: "I see fire! I see flames, huge flames!" This is when all of the Jews were in the cattle cars. The woman started shouting and going on about a fire which no one could see except her. She took action and tried to prove it by telling everyone about it but she had absolutely no evidence which made her look mad to everyone else. Real World Example: People who have schizophrenia. Schizophrenia is when people have can't tell the difference between what's real and what's not. The things that they believe has no evidence to it but they are convinced it's real.
|
|
|
|
Post by Noah Bodin on Feb 4, 2014 16:12:07 GMT
Knowing is being aware of something, but not necessarily believing it. By this i mean that you can know deep within yourself that something is happening, but you still do not have to accept it. It's sort of like being in denial. You know that something is going of but you refuse to accept that it is. For example, if your parents are getting divorced, you can know that it is happening, but tell yourself that everything is OK. Another example from Night is where Elie says, "The Germans were already in our town, the fascists were already in power, the verdict was out, and the Jews of Sighet were still smiling." This shows that even though the Jews knew that all these bad things were going on, they refused to accept them.
Believing is knowing and accepting something. I'm going to refer back to my last definition for knowing. It is basically the same thing. The only difference between knowing and believing is that when you know something, you can choose to either accept or reject that information. On the other hand, when you believe something, you accept that it is true and act on it. If you don't act on what you believe, then you really only know it , don't you? For example, you can know that a friendship of yours is falling apart, but act like everything is normal, and that would be knowing. Or, you can choose to act on what you know and try to mend your friendship, and only then does it become believing. In Night, Elie says that there were rumors that the fascists were coming to power, but they did not act. Then, later, people decided to try to move out of the country, and then the people who moved started believing the rumors.
Being mad is believing things that you know are not true, after they are proven not true. Even after people have proven that what you know is not valid, you continue to act on invalid beliefs, and that is madness. For example, people falsely accused Madame Schachter of being mad, before they had any proof that she was. In the end, it turned out that she was telling truths, but before anyone knew it. In real life, some people still believe crazy government conspiracys even after they have been proven impossible or untrue. They are mad.
|
|
